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I only got one miserable letter of feedback, what you all to chicken to say what you think on the matter?
FORTUNATELY, said letter was from one of the more upstanding citizens in our little community, none other than Kemosabe. Kemo raises some interesting points so I thought I'd stick his reply up here. It's quite nice to know that someone with a crap load more skill than I actually shares the same opinion, so I must be doing something right! Take it away Kemo:
"I agree with almost everything you say dood.
However, it is reasonable to call your own teammates chuckers, and getting them to stop, in team based games with teamhurt running (eg clan wars/2on2 server). The indiscriminate use of the gl or even just grenades in these mods are more likely to set your team back, than to gain you heaps of frags.
Nevertheless there will always be people who see "chucking" (or "lacing" as it is also known), as a skilless tactic (like "camping"). This is true of the lamers that stand up in the high ground just lobbing grenades over the edge, "just in case" someone happens to wander into them. However, as with "campers", the art is to take these people out ruthlessly. Make their lives a misery! The better players, as you say, will stay out of the "drop-zone" Note that I do not feel that someone who uses the GL judiciously, eg around corners/into corridors/into an oncoming attacker/etc is no skill lamer - that is skillful use. But standing high on Q2dm1 and lobbing grenades into the big area isnt really in the spirit of the game (much like standing at the top of the elevators in Q2dm2).
My 2c worth
Kemo."
Well, not much you can say against that. However after reading some of Kemo's well-written reply, I came up with some more points of my own.
If I were on a ledge, say in the pickup level - the area in "spin cycle", where you have the great big thing that spins around and the multiple platforms around the walls, if I stood on those platforms and simply lobbed grenades down into the fight below, you would label me a chucker, and even though I don't see anything wrong with it, you would be right, I fit the description. (mind you I don't do it because it tends to piss everyone off real quick.)
However, if I stood in exactly the same place and instead fired rockets indiscriminantly into the fight below, no one would care. It's basically the same thing - only the other team will get hurt - the only difference would be that my firing angle would be significantly different.
If you look at it like that then you might as well call everyone a chucker.
As Kemo points out above, Chuckers lob grenades down ""just in case" someone wanders into them.", but how many times have you let loose a rocket down a corridor "just in case" the enemy walks into it? I know I do it, and I've seen almost everyone else do it, and if you say you don't do it then you either don't play quake very much (if at all) or your a God damn liar. (It's actually quite scary how many frags you can get that way!)
Basically, like campers, anyone who does these things immediatly becomes predictable. I see camping and chucking as weaknesses to be exploited - your always going to have a good idea where these guys are, (ie. campers near rockets or some other nice piece of hardware and to find a chucker just head up)and if you already know where they're gonna be they're as good as dead - it's only a matter of time.
But lets get one thing straight here and now: although I still don't see anything really wrong with chucking, I am NOT trying to make it an accepted practice. Anything that annoys people is a bad thing to do - there is a fine line between people regarding you a good player or just a plain asshole, no matter how "good" your skills are. The purpose of these articles so far has been to DEFINE chucking. Personally I quite like the grenade launcher, and being called a lamer just because I fired two grenades in a game is simply not on. It seems if you frag anyone with the grenade launcher your a chucker, whether it was point blank, accross the room, or whether you fire one lucky shot or all 50.
Anyway, as always the channels are open for your views. It's damn easy for me to get up here and preach about everything that's wrong with the world but if I'm wrong I won't know until somebody tells me!
Author:
[EvEm]_Omen
Created:
November 26, 1998
Modified:
December 9, 1998 - 05:08:51 PM
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